Thursday, May 15, 2008

Let's Move On

Results are in, the council format has been established.
Lets hear about what they should do next:
Build out American Legion Drive

Jitneys

Swim club ?.....


And here on in you need to use a registered "name" to post- the 250 postings of the last string appear to be from 10 people, bitter and hateful if i may say so.

26 comments:

Swiggle said...
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Swiggle said...

I'd like to see a second floor on Cedar Lane. Banks on the top floor and community friendly stores on the bottom.

Bring in some tax revenue and take a little bland-ness away from Cedar Lane.

Fred said...

"Bitter and hateful?" Oh, you poor things. You guys have been shilling for Katz and his cronies on this blog forever, and now that people are finally standing up and making themselves heard, they are "bitter and angry." That's just choice.
And what is your point about anonymous postings? Swiggle is no more a real name than is Fred. Some of us are concerned about retribution from the powers that be in the orthodox community -- not only against us but our children who go to schools controlled by them.

northeastresident said...
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northeastresident said...

I would like to see the businesses on Teaneck Road from Robinson to Tryon Avenue made to maintain their property. Some of them look terrible. I would also like to see nicer stores fill in the vacancies.

Bob said...

Fred -- You are so correct. This blog has been devoted for weeks to trashing everyone and anyone who opposed Team Teaneck. I actually think people should continue to debate the issues on the 250 comment blog.

Fred said...

Bob --

I agree, but then they'll just terminate the thread or start deleting posts they find "bitter and angry." BTW, what is wrong with being angry? Some of the greatest achievements in history have been done by people who were angry. The colonists were angry at England and we got the Declaration of Independence; the blacks were angry at segregation, and we got the civil rights movement. The problem is when, in the face of harmful and immoral conduct, people start singing kumbaya and holding hands, instead of standing up and making their voices -- and, yes, their anger -- heard. what has been happening in Teaneck is abominable. And good concerned people need to stand up and be counted.

Swiggle said...

BTW, what is wrong with being angry?

When anger is turned in a call to action in order to right an injustice, it can be a terrific motivator, but when it is turned into discord and hatred it's effects are quite the opposite. To portray 'anger' as an absolute does noone any good.

Some of the greatest achievements in history have been done by people who were angry.

Unfortunately, some of the worst disasters in history have also b een perpetrated by those who were angry. It's what you do with it.

The colonists were angry at England and we got the Declaration of Independence

That is a very myopic view of history. While some colonists turned their anger into the Boston Tea Party, others used it to tar and feather (torture) tax collectors.

[T]he blacks were angry at segregation, and we got the civil rights movement.

Again, anger at segregation caused some to go the route of peace marches, MLK and the SCLC. For others it became Bloody Sunday and lynchings.

You don't need to be a kumbaya singing leftist looney to effect change, but while the change of those committed to equality will bring us closer and stronger...raw anger just serves to tear us apart.

Dave said...

SIDEWALKS! We need sidewalks! Make people build sidewalks!

Jervis said...
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Jervis said...

Fred-

How do the Orthodox control the schools? The only thing they do is pay a majority of the budget from their property taxes yet get no benefit.

A few moments ago, while driving home, 15 public school children from BF were standing in the middle of the street and refused to move for me. When I honked the horn they told me to "FUCK OFF ASSHOLE" and refused to move out of the way. I guess this is what the kids are learning in the Teaneck schools.

I would love to know how you can justify the cost of educating kids in this town when this is what we get for more than $17,000 per year per student

Fred said...

Jervis --

I think your comment was misdirected. I had never said that the orthodox control the schools. Although I do agree with your assessment of the public school education in Teaneck.

Zev Mo said...

@Jervis

I would submit to you that the behavior stems mostly from a lack of proper manners from either their family or their friends family. You can attribute it to the fact that both parents (if they are still together- over 50% divorce rate in the U.S.) are working- so, no one home until whenever. Kids are raising themselves, for the most part, and some parents feel guilty so they let them run rampant. Or just a complete lack of control over some of these kids. I could go one step further and bring out the crap in our food (antibiotics, high-fructose corn syrup, and hormones) that have been linked to premature development, the excess use of medication (anti-psychotic, anti-depressants, ADHD), and a whole host of other issues that contribute to the wonderful society that we have created.

I don't think you can say that it is the school, this behavior happens in private schools too. I wil also suggest that you ask the teachers how the students treat them. You will find that in public and private school, there is a general lack of respect and a feeling of entitlement to receive the respect from those they give no respect to. I believe that the economic situation in parallel with the passivity of some parents correctly teaching their children, as well as other factors discussed, is to blame. I could be wrong, I often have been. But I have experienced exactly the same thing and it bothers me too.

Teaneck said...

northeastresident said...
I would like to see the businesses on Teaneck Road from Robinson to Tryon Avenue made to maintain their property. Some of them look terrible. I would also like to see nicer stores fill in the vacancies.


Excellent idea. I, too, would like to see that. However, it seems that the Council recently passed new zoning for that area which limits the height of buildings. Had they allowed some additional height, maybe property owners would be more inclined to clean up or enhance their properties. Then again, if it is an issue of a property maintenance code violation, that should be reported to the building department.

northeastresident said...

Teaneck,

It is an issue of property maintenance. I have complained but to date the nothing has been done. I emailed the manager and she promised it would be filed with the health department. One of my main complaints is the gas station on Teaneck Rd. across from 7-11 and Sterling Cleaners. They have garbage and old tires sitting around to name a few and the worst part is it is next to a park where kids play. The other eyesores include Freedom Rental Car, the group of stores between Forest and Circle Driveway and Japanese East. I am not sure what you can do to encourage private homeowners and business owners to maintain their lawn. Teaneck Road is one of the main roads in our town and we should want it to look good from the Armory down to Ridgefield Park.

Swiggle said...

@Zev,

I'm not sure where you went to school, but our Teachers had complete control over their classes. They insisted that we stand whenever someone entered the room that was deserving of respect.

@Jervis

Just as I want a doctor to 'learn' bedside manners in addition to medicine (because each compliments the other), I think that students should be taught respect in addition to the subject matter (civics wouldn't hurt either)!

Zev Mo said...

@swiggle
I totally agree with you.

Karin said...

Then again, if it is an issue of a property maintenance code violation, that should be reported to the building department.

Actually that falls under the Health Dept.'s jurisdiction


Once you file a complaint the inspectors have 7 business days to act on it, if they do not I would start calling and harassing them to do their job!
It is possible to get the town to tell property owners to maintain their yards etc. I have done it on more than one occasion. sometimes it is easier than others to get the town to move on a complaint but sometimes you need to ride them!

Tom Abbott said...

Teaneck "Truth" said ...
... the 250 postings of the last string appear to be from 10 people, bitter and hateful if i may say so.

Bible, Galatians VI (King James Version): Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Harold said...

Mr. Abbott --

You are owed a big apology by the many unfair postings that were directed at you. Please understand that even those unfamiliar with the source you cite will be aware of similar sources and related ideas enumerated in places such as the Talmud.

Dave said...

So Harold, you're tryin to say the bitter people are all Jews? That's going out on a very wesk limb.

T. said...

Dave (aka Karin) - Quit trying to impersonate a Jew.

Swiggle said...

You are owed a big apology by the many unfair postings that were directed at you.

Harrold,
Try... John 8:7

Tom has no need for you to back him up. He's quite capable of defending his positions...flaws and all.

I may not agree with him, but I resent anyone telling me that I can't say he's wrong as much as anyone telling him that he can't say them.

Blogs are an exercise in oligarchy. Tom has erased several of my comments and while he certainly has a right to his opinion, I feel that he has repressed mine.

For those reasons, I find his words very applicable....Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Karin said...

t. said...
Dave (aka Karin) - Quit trying to impersonate a Jew.


t-

it would seem that you are really confused...I hear there is a medication that can help you ;)
if you keep making these stupid ASSumptions you just look plain stupid--oh wait maybe that is what you were shooting for!?!

T. said...

Karin (Dave) - Your non-denial denial is unpersuasive.

Karin said...

t. said...
Karin (Dave) - Your non-denial denial is unpersuasive.


And t you stupidity rains supreme...Kudos!